I'm starting to like the idea of a Mark III Supra...

"OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars" (jakeauern) 09/25/2016 at 22:03 • Filed to: None

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Mark II and Mark IV Supras are getting either too ratty or are already to expensive. This has gotten to the point that the Mark III Supras are becoming cooler to me... Am I wrong or would this be a fun second car to own?

Flavien Vidal > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:06

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The world of freakishly weird suspensions: The Toyota Supra Mk3!

jkm7680 > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:07

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#cambergang

LongbowMkII > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:09

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If you want an overcomplicated, chubby Mk2 go ahead.

I don’t think Mk3's will be in much better condition than a Mk2 these days. They’ve been teenage beater cars for a decade or so now.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:09

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Replicating this car would be so much fun... What engine did this car have?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > LongbowMkII 09/25/2016 at 22:10

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I love the Mk2 though... Such a cool looking car.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > LongbowMkII 09/25/2016 at 22:10

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Build quality (headgasket torque notwithstanding) was excellent for the MkII though.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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hello sir

what you driving these days?

Sam > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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As long as you make the the headgasket is either changed by the PO or you change it yourself.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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I really like these. They’re rad.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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A 1JZ swap away from goodness.

Nauraushaun > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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I like these a lot. But if the beloved MkIV is too ratty, it’s a sure bet that the MKIIIs are going to be more so.

Owners of Japanese cars suck ass.

Manuél Ferrari > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:11

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I once read that these cars had some design flaw that could cause mechanical issues. Forget the details.

Assuming whatever it was there is an after market fix for it?

Alfalfa > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:12

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Based off of what I regularly see in classifieds, the engines either seem prone to throwing rods or prone to really terrible owners.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Sam 09/25/2016 at 22:12

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We have a 8 bay Lexus/Toyota shop. It is no problem.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:12

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Pretty sure that’s backwards of how it needs to be.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Alfalfa 09/25/2016 at 22:13

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1JZ swap?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/25/2016 at 22:13

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Yes!

Flavien Vidal > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:13

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The best one is the 2.5L 1JZ-GTE engine (with, obviously, 276hp, as usual), but I think you could only get it here in Japan...

In the states, you had a 3L turbocharged engine, but it was quite a bit less powerful...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:14

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There’s a 1JZ swap. Should be enough.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/25/2016 at 22:14

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Also, dat interior

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:15

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Holy cow that is a lot of hp out of a 2.5. The 3.0 only got like 250 in the GS I think. I think these are old enough for legal overseas engine swaps?

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:16

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Holy shit you’re back!!! We missed ya!

I sold the A4, bought a ‘00 A6 2.7t 6 speed, and unfortunately now a 2016 Jetta 1.8t which I don’t like much and am dying to get rid of.

You still got the 997?

Manuél Ferrari > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:16

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True

Or maybe you could squeeze 2 JZs in there

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

Flavien Vidal > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:17

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The 7M-GTE was apparently rated at 232hp. And you can get 1JZ in the states legally now yes... But if you’re gonna do a swap, might as well put a 2JZ in it...

Alfalfa > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:18

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Well I’m pretty sure that was at least one of the engines you could get from the factory...

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:18

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Thanks man!

Oh how did you like the A6 Manuél?

Sorry you hate the Jetta

Yeah I still got it and still DDing it

It’s still so reliable and so much fun

It really deserves some mods after all these years

Exhaust would be nice

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:19

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But foreign engines are more fun?!? 2JZ is so common haha

Flavien Vidal > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/25/2016 at 22:19

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Yes, it’s a really weird and slightly fucked up type of suspension on this car. Good thing it didn’t last :)

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:22

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I absolutely adored the Manuél A6. Hands down best car I’ve ever owned and one of the best I’ve ever driven. So much torque in every gear and a bit of a sleeper also. It was also reliable and easy to care for.

I honestly want to sell my ‘16 Jetta Sport and get a B5 S4 just to get the 2.7t power back. The Jetta was an impulse buy to be honest.

Glad the Porsche is doing well! An exhaust would be awesome.

LongbowMkII > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 09/25/2016 at 22:22

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The 7mgte was the HG issue. The 5mge was just another overengineered Toyota motor.

Flavien Vidal > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/25/2016 at 22:23

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2JZ-GTE only came out in Mk4 Supra in the states though... So fairly rare really. Just very famous :)

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:23

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Maybe I’ll just 1/3UZ swap.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:24

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What happened to Senior Manuél A6 then? Bummer it’s gone :(

B5 S4 would be sick. Total future class. IMO it’s one of the top 3 best Audis of all time. My top 3 Audis are:

1. The OG Quattro

2. The B5 S4

3. The R8 V10 Manuél

Do you think it would be lame to get the 997 a wrap?

I always wished it was blue...

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:27

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The clutch went out and it needed a bunch of work on top of that. Stupid wear items. I didn’t have the time or space to fix it myself and it would’ve costed too much to have it done by a shop. It was a really rare color combo as well, the color was “racing green pearl” and it was a low mileage one owner car. I wish I still had it.

I totally agree, my list would be pretty much the same as yours haha.

A wrap would look sick! What color were you thinking?

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:29

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Oh bummer, sorry you didn’t have time to fix it :( Rare color and one owner!

I can’t decide which blue. But “the” Audi blue would be a possibility! I think you know which one I’m talking about :)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > LongbowMkII 09/25/2016 at 22:30

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Oh.

[sits down]

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:32

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Yup, my friends knew how much I loved the car and grieved with me haha.

And hell yes! A Nogaro blue 997 would look f-in awesome. Do it!

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Flavien Vidal 09/25/2016 at 22:40

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That couldn’t have handled as well as it probably could.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:42

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I’ll wait till you replace the Jetta to spend that money.

I feel bad making the 997 look pretty when you hate your car!

LongbowMkII > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 09/25/2016 at 22:42

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There’s no shame like old school Toyota motor shame.

I bet you didn’t even know the M engine debuted in the 2000gt. Yeah, the Supra basically is a 2000gt. (I may or may not have spent way too much time on Wikipedia over my lifetime)

SlickMcRick > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 22:45

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What year A4 did you have? I may be getting one soon.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:46

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Hahahah, it may be a while. It’s paid off, but it’s already depreciated so much.

I try to make myself like it, then I like it a little, then something else happens. Like recently I dislike how it’s slow as hell, merging onto a highway where everybody is going 75 requires a third gear at a high rpm and a large gap in traffic. In the A6, I could do it in 6th gear without effort.

The 997 is already pretty :)

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 22:48

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Is...is this who I think it is?!

jkm7680 > SlickMcRick 09/25/2016 at 22:51

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1997 and a 2008

I have experience with all A4 model years, so feel free to ask questions!

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 09/25/2016 at 23:12

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It’s his twin brother. I took over his account.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 23:32

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Oh god that would annoy me so much! Lack of power can be dangerous!

Thanks :) It does already look good, but blue always wins!

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 23:37

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Like, identical? Right down to the genetic level? I’m desperate, I’ll take what I can get.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 23:38

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It’s true, hah. My passenger was asking why I wasn’t going any faster.

Especially Nogaro blue, Now that the A4 is offered in manual, my next new car might be one, In Nogaro blue. Gotta love Audi exclusive paint jobs.

Any new additions/changes to your stable?

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 09/25/2016 at 23:39

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Actually fraternal twins.

I know, weird situation...

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 23:41

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You know what? I don’t car. The gated shifter is back on oppo and that all that matters!

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/25/2016 at 23:44

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That would be so cool! Does Audi have a 2nd motor for the A4 yet?

I know they used to have the turbo 4 and the N/A V6 but then got rid of the V6 because it didn’t add that much more power and it added too much money.

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 09/25/2016 at 23:45

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This is a true comment.

It doesn’t matter who is behind the keyboard.

What matters is gated shifter goodness.

Speaking of which, did you see what happened to Manuél 360 prices recently?

Doug NEVER should have sold his car!

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 23:46

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Not yet, just the 2.0t right now. Sometime down the line, the 3.2 or something similar might make a return though. When they hit showrooms, I’m already there hah

I’m also pretty pumped for the B9 Allroad, which you can Spec without the plastic stuff.

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 09/25/2016 at 23:51

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There’s like a $50k gap between the F1 and the manuals...

My First Ferrari is going to be an F1, isn’t it? The barrier to entry is too high for the manuals, and after a certain point you can’t get manuals at all because they don’t make them anymore. We’re already at the point where the autos have stopped appreciating. If that gap gets any bigger...

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 09/26/2016 at 00:01

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Yeah, it’s insane!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crap I wish I got a Manuél 360 too when they were cheap. I didn’t like the headlights. But I could have sold it and made a profit.

Yeah at this point it’s hard to find any good deals on a manual F car. There are some manual 355s for under $100K but I’ve looked at them and they’re messed up. The good ones are close to or over $100K every single time. And they’re expensive to maintain.

The only cheap one left is the 348. Nobody likes it because it’s kind of slow. But who cares, we should get them before it’s too late.

Other than the 348 there are 2 options:

1. Hope that FCA’s financial issues will cause them to copy Porsche and bring back the Manuél. The 911R was a huge success so now the next GT3 will have a manual option. Maybe Ferrari will make a sub 488 sports car that has a manual for the profits. Imagine if they made a mid-engine V6 with Manuél. If it started under $180K then it would sell like mad and there would be a lot of them out there to depreciate and later be had for under $100K.

2. Buy an F1 car and do Manuél swap. You won’t have matching numbrers but who cares if you’re going to DD it. There is a lot of talk on FChat right now about people doing this with the F430. Doing the manual swap is not cheap, but cheaper than spending $200K on an original car.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/26/2016 at 00:02

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They need to make a turbo V6 A4 soon!!!

Oh I didn’t know you can spec it without the plastic stuff.

And oh yeah I think I forgot to answer a prior question: I got a used 2013 Cayenne S. It’s cool. But I kind of wish I had got the diesel instead..

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 09/26/2016 at 00:06

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I think we will see Manual Ferraris move into air-cooled porsche territory in our lifetimes. They don’t make anymore, and the world is still full of trust fund babies and poles that don’t have expensive machinery wrapped around them. The number - as low as they already are - will just keep dwindling.

Why didn’t I buy intel stock as a kid? Why didn’t I buy apple stock as a young adult? Why don’t I know next weeks lotto numbers?

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 09/26/2016 at 00:08

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Yeah that’s happening for sure. Which is further proof that we need to buy the 348. It’s not that bad of a car, it just got a bad rap because the NSX was better. One day people will look back and think “whey didn’t I buy that for $50K when I could?” like they do now with 993s.
It’s way more rare than a 993 too.

Why didn’t I buy Apple stock when the iPhone came out? I had already switched my laptop to Mac in 2004. I knew they made some cool stuff and that their stock was cheap. I considered it but I was lazy...

Eggplant > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/26/2016 at 02:40

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6 years ago, a friend of mine penned a blog post about why the MK3 isn’t good. To this day, it is still the 2nd hit on google for “MK3 Supra”, surpassed only by the Wikipedia article. I feel as if there’s a reason for that.

Can it be a good car? Sure, I guess - but you’ll have to mechanic out the quirks. Also, like Flavien said - the suspension is all kinds of weird.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/26/2016 at 08:18

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They really should, that would be awesome. And a twin turbo somethin V6 as well.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Eggplant 09/26/2016 at 09:40

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Rally Cross Mk3?

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/26/2016 at 13:51

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can you do twin scroll turbos with a V6?

or does it have to be an I6?

i don’t know much about ze turbos

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/26/2016 at 15:39

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Maybe?

I prefer turbos over superchargers though, I need that turbo whistle haha.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/26/2016 at 17:52

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Also aren’t turbochargers more efficient?

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/26/2016 at 19:45

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Possibly? I know that super chargers don’t have turbo lag though.

That being said, most twin turbo cars don’t have turbo lag that much.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 09/28/2016 at 22:21

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Yeah superchargers don’t have lag. But I don’t think they help efficiency much because they’re driven by the motor, whereas turbos recycle energy that would have been wasted.

I like the supercharger sound more because they don’t muffle the exhaust, you just get the whine. But a modern turbo is the more efficient and eco friendly solution.

Dude why has everyone become such a SJW pussy?

Hillary Clinton is literally the devil and everyone on this site loves her cause liberals told them to?

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 09/28/2016 at 23:00

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Hells yeah man!

I couldn’t agree more. Brainwashed by the media I guess? I hate Hillary, but I would never post about it. I’d get called a sexist bigot in about five seconds.

And there’s a lot of new SJW BS on Oppo nowadays. People will get offended over nothing and then try to force their views on you. Opinions are dead as far as I’m concerned.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/05/2016 at 00:06

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We’re so doomed! The Democrats are trying to provoke Russia into WWIII and people call us sexist for not supporting Hillary.

Well I don’t give a crap. I will say what’s on my mind and people can call me sexist if they want. And I’ll call them brain dead to their face!

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/05/2016 at 08:06

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Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been called sexist more than once because I’m vocal about not supporting Hillary.

I kinda even want to get a Hillary For Prison yard sign hahah

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/06/2016 at 02:45

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I guess we’re sexist for wanting peace, low taxes, and liberties.

I want that sign too. But too scared I’ll get Vince Fostered!

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/06/2016 at 18:23

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Yup, guess that’s how it does unfortunately.

In the meantime, I’ve got a Republican elephant sticker in my back window. Wonder how long that’ll last.....

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/09/2016 at 00:56

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Hopefully nobody fucks with your car due to your sticker. I’ve been wanting to get a don’t tread on me sticker for the Ferrari but I’m too worried someone will kick it.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/09/2016 at 09:47

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I actually just removed it yesterday, after only having it on for a couple days. I was honestly worried my car would get keyed, or I would get threatened.

I’ve got these plates on the car though, I’ve only been called racist once for having them.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/13/2016 at 01:45

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Those plates rule! I hope nobody messed with your car because of them.

Some people just don’t know what it means. They think it’s racist because someone told them that..

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/14/2016 at 20:11

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I’m not expecting it, but it could happen when I’m out of state in a liberal area where people haven’t seem them before. Lots of people here just get them because they look cool, then they’re reminded what DTOM actually means.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/17/2016 at 21:23

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So many liberals here that my car would be fire bombed for sure with those plates, haha

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2016 at 21:30

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Yup, wish it wasn’t the case but it is.

I removed the republican elephant sticker from my window after getting threatened.

Real fucked up world we live in.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/18/2016 at 12:10

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I liked it better when liberals were happy hippies who loved everyone and didn’t break shit or light it on fire :)

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/18/2016 at 20:03

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Yup, same.

Also, how’s the reliability on the Porsche? I’m considering one.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/678485487/overview/

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/19/2016 at 13:56

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My 997.2 C2 (which looks just like this!) is hands down the highest quality vehicle I’ve ever owned.

I got it with 12K miles on the clock and now have a bit over 60,000. The only issue I ever had was the radio/nav unit died while it was under warranty and Porsche replaced it. I’ve yet to have even one minor mechanical issue.

I’ve bought and sold multiple cars since getting my 997 and I keep going back to it. It’s just the best DD ever as I never have to worry that it won’t start up or won’t get me home.

This seems like a good deal on a 997.1 car. All this car would need (if not done already) is the IMS issue prevention and it should be just as reliable as my car. You can get that done for $2500 or less these days.

Unless this car was abused I doubt it would have any issues. And I don’t even know how you can abuse it other than by not maintaining it. If there are maintenance records then you should be safe as I drive the piss out of my car and it never hurts it. I accelerate, turn and brake hard daily and the car doesn’t give a flying fuck. Unlike most cars it was built to do that so driving it hard probably makes it more reliable instead of less.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/19/2016 at 15:54

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Ah, thanks for the insight.

I don’t really drive that much (500 miles a month), so it would be good for DD duty as far as I’m concerned. One aspect I’m a bit worried about it the usability of the backseat, since I do serve as chauffeur for my friends pretty often.

Have you done anything to it modification wise? If I got one, I’d really consider getting wheels from a newer one and doing some OEM+ stuff here and there.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/19/2016 at 17:36

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I haven’t modded it yet. I need to at some point. But it’s bone stock now.

The back seats are only good for adults in a pinch. But that’s what I love about it! I don’t have to carry other people around, haha

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/19/2016 at 19:43

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Ah, nice.

That’s true, haha. How’s insurance?

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 10/19/2016 at 23:36

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Insurance is no prob!

The insurance companies I’ve been with since getting it (and I’m on the 2nd or 3rd) didn’t consider it an exotic. Or dangerous because it’s fast.

They only cared about the value of the car.

jkm7680 > Manuél Ferrari 10/21/2016 at 14:30

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Niiice, that’s currently my main concern. My licence is clean though, so I probably should be good.

My other option is a cheaper 996 and messing with it a bunch. I’m not too sure how I feel about getting a big ass loan haha.

Manuél Ferrari > jkm7680 11/02/2016 at 15:34

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We need to get as many loans as possible! Because when the sub prime auto loan market implodes the gov may give out TARP like assistance for auto loans.

If our irresponsible countrymen are going to get auto loan forgiveness then should cash in too!